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Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby moriniboy23 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:28 pm

Ive got a non-starting 250 Trophy Sport and its been suggested it could be carb issues

Has anyone tried a Dellorto slide carb rather than the usual Mikuni conversion? ive got several spare Dellortos, 26s & 28 PHBHs which are often fitted to Aprilia 2-stroke singles, so Im loath to spend £150 on a Japanese carb if I can just buy a handful of jets and a 2-stroke atomiser instead and pursue this avenue

If anyone has done it and can give me a jetting heads-up Id be really grateful

Simon in Bath
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Re: Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby stogadog » Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:11 pm

Don't want to teach you to suck eggs but have you thoroughly tested the ignition system first? - I would have thought that unless the carb was completely blocked up it would at least start up if not run properly providing you were getting a decent spark.
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Re: Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby moriniboy23 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:00 pm

Ive got a newly rebuilt engine, with measured squish, timed-up and clean points, a west german coil, new HT lead, a handful of plugs, new fusebox, cleaned-up earthing point and an extremely blue spark, so I PRESUME the ignition isn't the problem...
I presume....
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Re: Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby breakwellmz » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:41 am

Hi

The petrol isn`t old is it?2 strokes in particular don`t like old petrol.
It was a runner in your hands before was it?

Cheers
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Re: Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby moriniboy23 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:31 am

Forgot to list that, that the petrol & 2-stroke is brand from the garage
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Re: Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby breakwellmz » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:42 am

Does the plug look wet after you have tried starting it,as in petrol is getting in there?

Don`t mind coming over to have a look as you are local to me if you want,do PM me if you want to.

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Re: Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby moriniboy23 » Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:49 pm

Ive sent you a couple of PMs so as not to clutter the board. Have you had them? My email is: moriniboy23@yahoo.co.uk and phone 01225 834235/ 07788 442155
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Re: Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby breakwellmz » Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:55 pm

Hi

I`m doing this tomorrow you know about it i assume?Then the Moto GP starts on Sunday! :D

http://www.twotunnels.org.uk/
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Re: Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby therealche » Fri Apr 05, 2013 6:03 pm

breakwellmz wrote:Hi
Then the Moto GP starts on Sunday! :D

http://www.twotunnels.org.uk/


Can't wait... looks like all 3 classes are going to be good this year! Look's like "Darling Dani" is in for a nasty surprise!
ES250 Doppelport, ES250, ES250/1, ES250/2,ETS 250, ES150, ETS150, BK350, IWL Pitty, SR56 Wiesel, SR59 Berlin, Troll............ and thats just the German two strokes!
http://thecomeconcollection.blogspot.com/
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Re: Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby breakwellmz » Sat Apr 06, 2013 2:16 pm

moriniboy23 wrote:Ive sent you a couple of PMs so as not to clutter the board. Have you had them? My email is: moriniboy23@yahoo.co.uk and phone 01225 834235/ 07788 442155


Hi

Sent you a PM yesterday,but it is shown as being in`outbox`rather than`sent`.What is the difference,and have you received it?

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Re: Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby moriniboy23 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:10 am

Ah no not received it, wait, it does say 'one new message'. I wish this site would inform one's email about a new message... of course, the Two Tunnels thing. I forgot all about it. It goes under my house...I wanted to go to that festival, curses. Enjoy the bike racing, speak
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Re: Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby breakwellmz » Sun Apr 07, 2013 4:40 am

JUST came across this which may be useful-

http://www.dgw.org.uk/downloads/ts250-manual-image.pdf
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Re: Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby moriniboy23 » Sun Apr 07, 2013 5:37 am

Yes got an original and the ETS supplement. They are somewhat better than the Haynes equivalent...
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Re: Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby breakwellmz » Sun Apr 07, 2013 6:12 am

Re your message.

Good spark,presumably at the right time,fuel(Fresh),compression.What else do you need?

That`s the good thing about 2 strokes,SO simple :P

You COULD have a crankcase full of fuel is suppose,or a spark that breaks down under pressure.

Have you tried bump starting,or just on the kickstart?

Come on chaps,anyone else here have any ideas?
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Re: Fitting a Dellorto carb on a 250 Trophy Sport

Postby moriniboy23 » Fri May 24, 2013 11:46 am

Having been lent a 'good' 28mm carb, the bike eventually started - Eureka last weekend, and after it cleared itself (sorry neighbours) would rev out.

When I took the old carb off to put the borrowed one on, I noticed the little rubber 'pill' that sits in the choke piston/plunger was 90 degrees out, like a coin on its edge, so it may have been this all along, permanently blocking the choke airway, even with the plunger raised. So I have either cracked it, and can put my old wrong size 30mm carb back on, or it may be that I do need another carb
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