TS 125 & 150 bottom ends the same ?

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TS 125 & 150 bottom ends the same ?

Postby CompoSimmonite » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:02 am

It's a while since I owned a MZ - a TS250 Supa-5. In a lot of ways I wished I'd still got it but an accident means I now prefer smaller machines.Still got the factory workshop manual and owners handbook though :lol: In the garage are other bikes (CB92 Benly, CB400A, C50LAC, Vespa ET4 and Jawa 210) but recently I've got the urge for another bike - a project. I was looking for a TS125 / TS150 but came across a cheap 1959/60 Francis Barnett Falcon rolling chassis instead :roll:
The FB is little more than a frame, forks and swinging arm with rough rear wheel so a plan is developing. Rather than restore as original, that would be difficult plus the engine should be a AMC T20 which as a poor reputation, why not build a "period style" trail bike using MZ engine and wheels plus smaller parts. The more I think about this idea the more it appeals. I'm sure I can source the MZ parts from a scrap bike or somebodies unused spares pile but have a query about the engine which hopefully somebody can easilly answer.
Question therfore is are the TS 125 & TS150 bottom ends the same and it's just the top end that is different ?

Thanks.

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Re: TS 125 & 150 bottom ends the same ?

Postby breakwellmz » Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:44 am

Something like this?-

http://www.classicrider444.com/wp-conte ... arnett.jpg

Looks very similar to the MZ engine,don`t they have the same origin,or is it the BSA Bantam/MZ?
Note lack of silencing!

It`s not this one is it? :lol: -

http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/17288/lot/162/
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Re: TS 125 & 150 bottom ends the same ?

Postby Skorpion » Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:51 am

CompoSimmonite wrote:It's a while since I owned a MZ - a TS250 Supa-5. In a lot of ways I wished I'd still got it but an accident means I now prefer smaller machines.Still got the factory workshop manual and owners handbook though :lol: In the garage are other bikes (CB92 Benly, CB400A, C50LAC, Vespa ET4 and Jawa 210) but recently I've got the urge for another bike - a project. I was looking for a TS125 / TS150 but came across a cheap 1959/60 Francis Barnett Falcon rolling chassis instead :roll:
The FB is little more than a frame, forks and swinging arm with rough rear wheel so a plan is developing. Rather than restore as original, that would be difficult plus the engine should be a AMC T20 which as a poor reputation, why not build a "period style" trail bike using MZ engine and wheels plus smaller parts. The more I think about this idea the more it appeals. I'm sure I can source the MZ parts from a scrap bike or somebodies unused spares pile but have a query about the engine which hopefully somebody can easilly answer.
Question therfore is are the TS 125 & TS150 bottom ends the same and it's just the top end that is different ?

Thanks.

Paul H,
Werrington
Stoke-on-Trent



Yes only Top End and Carb are different.
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Re: TS 125 & 150 bottom ends the same ?

Postby DAVID THOMPSON » Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:29 pm

bantam is dkw engine in reverse so shift is on the english side
HD hummer is a bad copy of both the bantam and DKW yamaha made a copy also

drop one of the newer rt sm sx motors in it and have a daily driver that runs good
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Re: TS 125 & 150 bottom ends the same ?

Postby breakwellmz » Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:56 pm

Are you able to run old,or any two strokes in your back yard?
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Re: TS 125 & 150 bottom ends the same ?

Postby therealche » Sat Mar 02, 2013 4:40 pm

Stick with the stink wheel... cheap easy to work on and spares are easy to get hold of. Unfortunately spares for the new RT are thin on the ground in the UK at least
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Re: TS 125 & 150 bottom ends the same ?

Postby arry_b » Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:14 am

Spares pile? We've all got those ;)

I've no complete small TS engines, but many spare parts. Cases, covers, gearboxes, etc.

Steve
PS. I've also got stacks of CB400 twin stuff if you need anything for that one, especially engine related bits.
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Re: TS 125 & 150 bottom ends the same ?

Postby ianc » Thu Oct 03, 2013 6:22 am

arry_b wrote:Spares pile? We've all got those ;)

I've no complete small TS engines, but many spare parts. Cases, covers, gearboxes, etc.

Steve
PS. I've also got stacks of CB400 twin stuff if you need anything for that one, especially engine related bits.



Hiya,
In the spares pile I don't suppose you have a usable crankshaft for sale? :)
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Re: TS 125 & 150 bottom ends the same ?

Postby arry_b » Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:03 am

Sorry ianc, no cranks.
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